Robert Rosenbaum PhD is an American Zen teacher of Dayan (Wild Goose) Qigong with over thirty years of experience as a neuroscientist, psychotherapist and behavioral medicine specialist. In this episode, Robert and Jason discuss his new book, That is Not Your Mind, the effects of meditation on the brain, the Mindfulness movement, Zen practice, the commercialization of Buddhism, and much more.

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